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Just trying to brainstorm a little here, me being Costa Rican and all...


Any german experts?

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Slim,
I noticed you've bet a couple of skinny ones in Soccer lately but be warned, The World Cup is a burial ground for the "cant see past the Jolly" brigade. At least your Costa Rica will be at positive prices. Good Luck in the Tourney. :drink:
 

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Jack,

If Im asking its because I dont know, I dont come down here often.

andy, Im curious regarding the german team, what is the actual atmosphere in regards to the team, expectations they might have.
Also, how strong is the German attack at the present time?

The reason Im asking these questions is, Costa Rica is going to field a much weaker team than they did 4 years ago and I have a hard time believing we can put one in the net against the Germans. I truly think we'll be held to 0 and just hope we can pull a draw. I like the Under in this game if I can get a decent price at under 2.5. I would however like to know from someone there that has an actual feel for how the Germans are playing.

Winbet, I cant blame you for not wanting to share any skinny ones with some of the characters around here but perhaps we can get them to promise good behavior and we can all benefit for a change. Feel free to share your thoughts on em, I for one, would appreciate them.
 

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Forgett about the under. Our team will play an offensive style. That is why Lehmann is the goalkeeper. He can handle that style way better than Kahn.

Yes, Germany (my team) is a big big ?????. There are just two possibilities. The first one is the team is on fire from the first match on. The hype here in Germany is unbelievable. You can see TV shows about the WC on a daily basis. Most of the commercials are about the WC. Every store sells WC stuff (including bread that looks like a football etc etc etc.). Every five minutes you hear spots or reports about the WC in the radio. We, the Germans are standing united behind our team. We are proud of being the host nation for the WC. You don`t hear anyone complaining about the costs or whatsoever. We all are in a hype. We were looking forward to the event for 6 years and now is just 30 days ahead. The sad thing is that it will be over on July, 9th. Let`s get back to our team. Germany had some bad results in the past but this is a TOURNEY. Remember how our team played in the Confed last year. The team will play an offensive style. That is why Lehmann will be the goalkeeper. I think Germany will simply trash Costa Rica by a 3 goal margin. The reason therefore is that in case of such a performance the hype will get even greater and will give the team the much needed selfconfidence. In case of such a result expect our team to make it at least to the semis.
On the other hand the pressure could be too much for such a young team. Everything is possible but I don`expect CR to be a real contender. The Ticos will tell me something different but I can only tell them to enjoy the three games they will play in Germany and have a good time here.
 

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Remember the way our team played during the Confed.
Ger-Mex 4-3
Ger-Bra 2-3
Ger-Aus 4-3
Ger-Tun 3-0
Ger-Arg 2-2

Our def is a bit better than it was last year but look at the results. If I were you I would stay away from the under.

1934 Germany - Belgium 5-2
1954 Germany - Turkey 4-1
1958 Germany - Argentina 3-1
1962 Germany - Italy 0-0
1966 Germany - Switzerland 5-0
1970 Germany - Morocco 2-1
1974 Germany - Chile 1-0
1978 Germany - Poland 0-0
1982 Germany - Algeria 1-2 (!!!!)
1986 Germany - Uruguay 1-1
1990 Germany - Yugoslavia 4-1
1994 Germany - Bolivia 1-0
1998 Germany - USA 2-0
2002 Germany - Saudi Arabia 8-0 (!!!!)

Overall Germany is 10-3-1 in their first matches with 37-9 goals.
 

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andynbg said:
Forgett about the under. Our team will play an offensive style. That is why Lehmann is the goalkeeper. He can handle that style way better than Kahn.

Yes, Germany (my team) is a big big ?????. There are just two possibilities. The first one is the team is on fire from the first match on. The hype here in Germany is unbelievable. You can see TV shows about the WC on a daily basis. Most of the commercials are about the WC. Every store sells WC stuff (including bread that looks like a football etc etc etc.). Every five minutes you hear spots or reports about the WC in the radio. We, the Germans are standing united behind our team. We are proud of being the host nation for the WC. You don`t hear anyone complaining about the costs or whatsoever. We all are in a hype. We were looking forward to the event for 6 years and now is just 30 days ahead. The sad thing is that it will be over on July, 9th. Let`s get back to our team. Germany had some bad results in the past but this is a TOURNEY. Remember how our team played in the Confed last year. The team will play an offensive style. That is why Lehmann will be the goalkeeper. I think Germany will simply trash Costa Rica by a 3 goal margin. The reason therefore is that in case of such a performance the hype will get even greater and will give the team the much needed selfconfidence. In case of such a result expect our team to make it at least to the semis.
On the other hand the pressure could be too much for such a young team. Everything is possible but I don`expect CR to be a real contender. The Ticos will tell me something different but I can only tell them to enjoy the three games they will play in Germany and have a good time here.

Everything is correct andy is saying...stay away from the under, just go for germany cover the hdc against CR, whatever it is. I dont see our young team fall under the pressure. maybe they will loose at one stage, cause they are not good enough, but i expect a great showing.
 

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Slim,

According to my own ratings Germany should give 1.25 goals on the Asian Handicaps. The Over/Under should be about 3 goals.
Bookies have the match at -1.5 and the Over/Under at 2.75.
I expect most of my "friends" to bet on Germany, so I will gladly keep those bets myself.
 

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Winbet, I cant blame you for not wanting to share any skinny ones with some of the characters around here but perhaps we can get them to promise good behavior and we can all benefit for a change. Feel free to share your thoughts on em, I for one, would appreciate them.

Slim,
I dont need to tell you, you already do a good job of telling people where the Public Money goes, The World Cup magnifies that. I'm talking the plain old square bet where Brazil plays Outer Mongolia, all the thieves come out and before you know it, its a Draw.

ACW,
While agreeing with your overall thinking, the problem is its the first game and Germany will be sky high for this and wont settle for a normal 1-0. Where did you get your 2.75 goals? I think it will be far higher, 3+.

http://www.planetworldcup.com/

Have some nice Write-ups and I'm sure they will crank it up in the next Month.

http://www.bigsoccer.com/index.php?page=FIFAWorldCup

Individual Groups on here so maybe worth a look.
 

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hmmmm, ok I appreciate the thoughts and comments. The under is shaky according to you guys. Do you think there might be some kind of "nerves" considering it is the opening game, at home with all the eyes of the world watching? Most of this German squad is new/young correct?
 

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Winbet,

Slim already knows that the total has been put up this low and is simply wondering how come. He wants to hear excuses. All you guys are doing is just making it harder for him by telling him that there will be many goals in this match. He is not happy with that. What needs to happen here is that we actually need to tell Slim why the Under all over a sudden is more likely and he will then feel more comfortable putting up such a low Under himself. End result we all get a beauty of a price on the Over! Whole Caribbean gets fvcked this way. Slim at least does some investigative work in the prices, but most of those guys are so dumb that they will just literally copy whatever prices are being handed to them.

Slim,
The ratings that I gave you come straight out of the computer. From a subjective point of view I fully disagree with all the posters in this thread and think that Germany will be very happy to settle for a 1-0 victory! Even if it turns out to be a 0-0 or 1-1 draw, then still no disaster. What Germany wants to avoid at all costs is losing the match.

Good Luck!
 

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andynbg said:
Remember the way our team played during the Confed.
Ger-Mex 4-3
Ger-Bra 2-3
Ger-Aus 4-3
Ger-Tun 3-0
Ger-Arg 2-2

Our def is a bit better than it was last year but look at the results. If I were you I would stay away from the under.

1934 Germany - Belgium 5-2
1954 Germany - Turkey 4-1
1958 Germany - Argentina 3-1
1962 Germany - Italy 0-0
1966 Germany - Switzerland 5-0
1970 Germany - Morocco 2-1
1974 Germany - Chile 1-0
1978 Germany - Poland 0-0
1982 Germany - Algeria 1-2 (!!!!)
1986 Germany - Uruguay 1-1
1990 Germany - Yugoslavia 4-1
1994 Germany - Bolivia 1-0
1998 Germany - USA 2-0
2002 Germany - Saudi Arabia 8-0 (!!!!)

Overall Germany is 10-3-1 in their first matches with 37-9 goals.


Oh dude - ALL your credibility goes down the pan trying to suggest a game in 1934 has ANY relevance to what will happen in 2006. Even in 2002, How many of the German team will be playing in 2006? (and be in the same form). I know there will be no Saudis playing for Costa Rica.

Worst argument EVER for trying to predict future events, unless there is a load of travelling involved.
 

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All i wanted to show is that Germany is alway trying to get a great start into a tourney. Do you remember 1990 when they trashed Yugoslavia. That was a victory which put them on fire throughout the whole tourney. The same happened back in 2002. Our media as well as the fans expect a victory with at least 2 or 3 goals. The team wants and has to make a statement. If not against Cr against which teams then. We all made the experience during the Confed last year. Whenever the team has a great start anything is possible. Under no circumstances anyone will be happy with a draw or a 1-0. They want to avoid that the media jumps on them after the first match. Does anyone really think CR has a chance. Not in this tourney.
 

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As anyone who has been to an opening Home game of any type knows, Adrenalin runs high amongst Supporters and Players and Germany will have no option but attack. This can lead to a Goal the other way, usually an early one but Goals will come. When you add this to the heavy wipe out money, I think the 1.5 goals under will be around 4.5 and the 2.5 goals under 2.25 :drink:
 

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winbet said:
ACW,
While agreeing with your overall thinking, the problem is its the first game and Germany will be sky high for this and wont settle for a normal 1-0. Where did you get your 2.75 goals? I think it will be far higher, 3+.

winbet said:
As anyone who has been to an opening Home game of any type knows, Adrenalin runs high amongst Supporters and Players and Germany will have no option but attack. This can lead to a Goal the other way, usually an early one but Goals will come. When you add this to the heavy wipe out money, I think the 1.5 goals under will be around 4.5 and the 2.5 goals under 2.25 :drink:
If you think that the goals total will be at 3+ and the Under 2.5 at 5/4, then may I ask you a question: Are you on drugs?
 

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The last time you asked if I was on Drugs I thought long and hard about my reply and came up with the following answers:

1) The Guy is a Fucking Wanker who hasnt a clue, rip into him on every front.
2) Maybe he is a young Buck who is clueless and just needs a shot across the Bow of gambling.
3) Steady as you go, maybe he just doesnt understand odds and needs teaching, if the clown can learn.
4) Try to explain the situation in easier terms, then the dope might see the light.
5) Some Idiots will never learn, dont bother.

In the Event I came up with a 3-4 answer, now you come along asking the same dopey question, am I on drugs. If you said, I dont understand or, I think your view is wrong, I would accept your opinion, however you want to go down the Number 5 route.

I'm not going to explain simple shit to a nonsense like you who forms opinions without considering the other side. Your post about Punters being stupid betting the 2.5 Goals market @ 5 % Com when they can bet the Total Goals market @1% not only shows the Breadth of your knowledge and insight but your failure to ask why. Your posts give away the standard Anorak tendencies and profile of someone who needs to get out and talk to people in the real World for once. Maybe you've been cushioned in the Soccer forum for so long you have began to think you are right in what you say, well thats just finished.

So, is it a, Please explain Uncle Winbet I dont understand, or a, Uncle Winbet, I dont think your right there, how did you form that opinion. Of course, you can still go down the line of, "on Drugs" and suffer the humiliating consequences, your choice Smart Boy. I understand that an apology is degrading so I'm not asking for that, just a simple, I may have been wrong. :drink:
 

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winbet said:
The last time you asked if I was on Drugs I thought long and hard about my reply
The day I need to think long and hard about what to reply in this forum, I better stop posting here, as for me and I hope for many others the forum mainly offers entertainment, though having said that 3 posters of the RX and one poster from another forum, but funny enough no other forums yet, have given me some serious value, so apart from the entertainment there is some serious value in it.

If you give me the brand name of the drugs you are on, then I may either start using it to understand you or I will understand why you think that you are right.
 

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acw said:
The day I need to think long and hard about what to reply in this forum, I better stop posting here, as for me and I hope for many others the forum mainly offers entertainment, though having said that 3 posters of the RX and one poster from another forum, but funny enough no other forums yet, have given me some serious value, so apart from the entertainment there is some serious value in it.

If you give me the brand name of the drugs you are on, then I may either start using it to understand you or I will understand why you think that you are right.

Your Choice :thumbsup2:
 

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